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| Topic Started: September 12, 2015, 10:09 pm (656 Views) | |
| Ajogamer | March 21, 2016, 5:14 pm Post #11 |
 
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While it does feel odd to call a historic event a spoiler, I do feel like it still technically is one for a fictional story that follows those events more closely, since it would then be spoiling the surprise for someone not in the know. I feel like a lot of people who watch fiction based on historic fact often mind spoilers less, though what someone considers a spoiler also varies a lot from person to person. Likewise, I definitely feel a lot of it ultimately comes down to perspective, similar to what Shinohara_Seiko said. If you're watching a fictional show based on some historical happening that's lesser known knowledge and generally not considered as important to know about (at least in your country), then I definitely think it's reasonable to avoid actively trying to learn more about those events until you've finished the show. Now it it's fiction about something generally considered more common knowledge and important, such as the major events of World War 2 (both common knowledge and considered important knowledge in many countries), or say, the Civil War (very important knowledge for those in the USA), then it seems a bit less reasonable to avoid spoilers, since that knowledge is both harder to avoid, and is more likely to come up when doing many things related to history and education. Even with something more obscure though, I think it'd be unfair to get upset at someone spoiling it for you unless that was actually their intent. A bit of a more extreme example would be if you were taking a history course. If you focus more on avoiding spoilers for a fictional story than learning what the course teaches, I'd say you have pretty skewed priorities. Now, a less extreme example such as the one you laid out in the opening post however, there's a bit more gray. Personally, I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to say that they can't wait to see how the manga handles a major historical event it'll likely relate to (like say, an assassination or the overthrowing of a ruler), especially in the setting of a message board, since it should be expected that some fans of the story would likely be history buffs or ones with interest in the real world events, and for them, a lot of the fun can be to compare it to the real-world history and see what variances there are (so anyone wanting to avoid spoilers should try and take extra care). On the other hand though, it's obviously different if a person comes to you and spoils things after you've said you're trying to avoid learning more about the real world events until you've finished reading the manga, however. A message board equivalent would be to post about events that occur later on in a topic that has laid out it's for discussion only up to the current episode/chapter. I'd see it as a jerk move there, cause then the people have already made clear they don't want to know more about those later events yet, and you're impeding on them, not the other way around. Edited by Ajogamer, March 21, 2016, 5:17 pm.
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| DeathkaiserG | March 21, 2016, 6:31 pm Post #12 |
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So I have skewed priorities? Wow xD I mean I could be just be bored and pick up the manga because it has swords and lots of strategy, not because of the history (that you probably dont known its baswd on...of course,that comes in later) I mean that's how I started... Especially in the three kingdoms saga, I was bored, just watched Koihime Musou for the girls and stuff, then I became engrossed with the 3k story...It elevated to Dynasty warriors then the real novel itself. There is a sense of progression to some In a sense, sure there are a lots of history buffs but you can't be expect that's all its demographic. There are beginners too who aren't well versed with history and tries to research after an event happened (ah...Kyou kai is a man in real life, this event happened huh) Edit: with no history know how's, you can be attached to a character..and be devastated Edited by DeathkaiserG, March 21, 2016, 6:37 pm.
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| superdubes | March 21, 2016, 6:57 pm Post #13 |
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I hadn't read any of the posts here and started typing my opinion then went up to read some of the posts and found out Ajo and I fall on the same side of this debate. It's all about the poster's intent. If they said it to upset people then yes, it's a spoiler. If it was genuine enthusiasm for seeing a historical event then I think it shouldn't be considered a spoiler. Also, I don't think you have skewed priorities. It's a matter of perspective. You didn't know the event in question so you could very easily perceive the statement as a spoiler and get upset. Even though that wasn't the original poster's intent. |
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| Ajogamer | March 21, 2016, 11:29 pm Post #14 |
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Sorry, I might not have been clear enough with that part. I didn't mean in terms of avoiding spoilers in general, since I can definitely understand that (and also agree with a lot of what you've said as well). I might even try to avoid being spoiled myself in a similar situation. I only meant skewed priorities in the one specific situation I gave there, which was if you were taking a history class that went over the same history the manga dealt with, and decided you'd rather avoid spoilers than study the material, even if it meant failing the class. I would consider it skewed priorities in that situation, since I definitely think passing the class is more important than not getting spoiled on the specific manga. That was only meant as a more extreme example though, which was why I went on to say that with a lot of the situations you were describing, it's more gray and down to context/personal preference. |
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